great review – as always. The last time I used polar flow was back in May when I was testing the Grit X. Nope, it doesn’t. After one of the intervals I hit the pause instead of lap button, and then realized it about a 100m later. Them, not MAS/MAP business? But if you don’t need the native power or the other features mentioned, then staying with the Vantage M makes sense. I agree is it a pain though to retest and I have been trying to dive through the literature to determine the true potential for first beat and others to quantify training load. Vantage on Polarin GPS-multisport-tuoteperhe, jossa on kolme eri mallia Polar Vantage V, V Titan ja Vantage M, jotka sisältävät uusia edistyksellisiä ominaisuuksia omiin hintaluokkiinsa, sekä tietenkin kaikki jo edellisistä laitesukupolvista tutut ominaisuudet. Seems like Polar could have made most of these features simply available on the original vantage V without it requiring a new piece of hardware. This problem was already present in the original Vantage. While youâre likely buying the Vantage V2 for its sports prowess, weâll start off here with some of the basics of the watch. – Zone Pointer for power/speed zone-based workouts. You can start any of the planned workouts from this time range by selecting it. But the screen 𤮠I’d rather just rely on a head unit for cycling and I’ll make do with a Samsung for other stuff. But hey, I suppose thereâs always room for improvement. Mate, go through the site, it ainât guerilla marketing. $US100. So far everything works out fine, figures are identical at least when you compare after the workout. They can’t offer what Garmin can such as onboard music so surely it would make sense to keep customers happy !! I hope they are reading these comments, since I doubt the mails sent through their website get through to anyone who cares what potential customers think. As for swimming, no, it doesn’t support the older analog frequencies, so only optical HR there for swimming. As always, most amazing review Ray! Is It possible to enter different routes/segments while recording a run/ride? They’ve only added compatibility in their sensors, not their watches (the hardware does support it, but Polar hasn’t elected to enable it). The fact you can piece together a good running watch with apps on the apple watch or a biking watch with apps makes me wonder how Polar and Garmin are going to fare going forwards. Finally, maybe run it by the doc about getting your heart rate that high. If they make the update only to V2 I will switch to Coros for good. * So for that crowd, this helps basically gives people what they want … Are any Polar watches able to pair with other items, i.e. I just checked it again. Anyhow should I get a new H10 and keep using V800 until they patch V2 to a good form in 6mo or so or skip paying for H10 and get V2 anyway? I take things to a whole new level of interactive depth! For example no notification during the training. So for that crowd, this helps basically give people what they want in terms of the extra training/recovery focused elements. Hi, do you know from which weather service the Flow app gets the weather data from? The V800 for reference never had this problem keeping pretty steady. Garmin just have shedloads more product than others and if you look how the site developed he has followed his interests and preferences (complemented by data), which became an occupation. Träningsvisningar kan enkelt anpassas i Flow (via mobiltelefon eller dator). Nice, have tou heard anything if they are planing to integrate this towards TraningPeaks or simular platforms or is it just within polar ecosystem? As someone who jumped onto the platform some month ago, it is still not clear what is what and what means what ð. Can you perfom the Running Performance Test on the treadmill as well? I learned to love the Strava route explorer lately and the easy export from the Strava routes to my Garmin watch. That’s really a shame. Other units I was using werenât seeing dropouts (via ANT+). So someone at Polar in their wisdom, likely a new-hire product development/marketing person, said “okay, we can’t get to with what we have now, the parts won’t get there, the team to build it is declining, and the new guys (or “market-available” devs), are not going to want to go backwards by working at Polar. And if you go off trail youâll get a notice of that too. Since that time those units have gotten numerous firmware updates (and even a Titanium version). Though usually, I work ahead of time to confirm any ‘unknown’s in the product database. The slightly less expensive Polar Grit X doesnât (in my opinion) really replace the much cheaper Vantage M. But more on that later. With the hardware on both the Vantage V and Vantage M – what is stopping Polar from rolling out the features of the Vantage 2 – I understand that some of the features the need a barometer can’t be rolled out to the Vantage M but what about the Vantage V. That played out with the Polar Grit X watch this past April, essentially taking a Vantage series watch and adding more hiking/outdoors related features, as well as new nutrition and energy source related metrics. Changing scenery again, what about an outdoors ride? Think my written reviews are deep? This ISN’T necessarily bad. Wonder how durable the black anodised aluminium is compared to DLC. He will never answer those type of questions as he is ofren testing unreleased devices. So if you want a watch that you can wear 24/7, then I would get VV2. In your review of the Vantage V, you mentioned that it suffered from ‘death by a thousand cuts,’ which seems to have continued with the Grit X and now the V2. Have you noticed if Polar have fixad the problem with the step counter counting steps even though you have started an indoor sport profile workout? You are running with your pregnant wife! I can’t deal with the shitty faded 2005-era looking LCD screen. A) Polar usually validates all the tech spec/product comparison database bits within a day of review, and did so for the original Polar Vantage V (and Grit X). Indicating âfalse directionâ! They did initially say that Fitspark would not come to the Vantage, but eventually bowed to consumer pressure. No, no change there. Thanks for (as alway) great review, DC Rainmaker! It actually tells you at the end of the test that you should go to Polar Flow and take care of it yourself. Polar Vantage V2 Ny ; Polar Vantage V; Polar Grit X; Polar Vantage M; Polar M430; Polar M200; Fitness & cross training. I still do like the Grit X style buttons better though. So is there any chance of you doing V1 vs. V2 for the optical sensor? The Vantage V2 is ostensibly the follow up to the Vantage V, released back in 2018 but it shares more in terms of features and hardware with the Polar Grit ⦠They just provide it differently. It’s like there isn’t actually a marketing team, or they are asleep at the wheel ignoring not only the market, but what their OWN loyal Polar users are screaming at them to do. I was hoping for a watch with more testing ability. Problem is that something is messed up with how the Vantage calculates reaching daily goals. anything about treadmill running or gym equipment compatibility? For example indoor cycling or a cross-trainer. would you choose it over the new Garmin 745? Thank you so much for the review. They stressed in the launch “function over form” but still keep making round watches which is ONLY beneficial from a “fashion” perspective. Det är en av de 100 mest populära produkterna i kategorin Pulsklockor & sportklockor med ett genomsnittligt betyg pÃ¥ 3.3 av 5. Polar Vantage V: n/a Lighter weight is noticeable. But after what I have read, there are some things that makes me look at a Garmin Forerunner 245 like, for example, the price, and, in comparison to my Ignite, the possibility to pair speed and cadence sensors, low or high hear rate alerts. I feel trapped! Sure, some will â especially those that may have held out on buying the Grit X, despite wanting those new features. Knowing the functions of the V800 and using the Vantage V is depressing. — Great review as usual. Can you configure your own data pages on the apple watch? The new tests are: – Running Performance Test Agree, I’ve never understood why watches block the detail when paused. More info when pressing lap or pause button would be welcome as well. (At least adding Power training plans by year-end, HAS caught my attention, but the still sub-par (for their top-end watch) HR problems, and GPS tracking (which everything else depends on)… just makes it pointless. Though do note with Komoot youâll need to have that region activated in Komoot (the point where the route starts), which might involve paying Komoot depending on if youâve activated any other regions already. While previously (and still currently), Polar has the Running Index score it gives you after each run, this is apparently a bit more accurate. Of course, 63 is higher than my highest ever actual lab tested value. To access Routes or Workouts (called âFavoritesâ in the Polar watch menus), youâll crack open a sport mode, and then hit the settings icon: Youâll then see the listing above of Routes (or Favorites), and can choose one. As well as automatic laps and more. If I just stand (not walk/run/…) and not turn around my vertical axis, but turn my hand from front of me to beside, the “compass” does not update the direction where my start point is. What I understand is that Polar went for a software update by bringing a hardware product more or less the same. Three questions on the V2 with regards to the navigation that somebody hopefully can answer: Yep, you read that right. I already tried tips like wearing the watch on the other wrist etc. ThousandPrism: “and thereâs definitely a compass (or some other direction sensing device) in the V”. I have another screen with the same metrics but with lap time instead of lap hr avg, and it looks like the constantly moving lap time forces the display to refresh every sec because that screen works normally. ð. DC Rainmaker 2019 swim, bike, run, and general gear list. It’s definitely a compass calibration screen, that’s the point of the figure-8. Vantage M, Grit X or V2. That could be a combination of Segments, Routes, or Workouts. This made me switch to Garmin and I like the watch but despise the website ð Oh and the work out recommendations were not bad at all by Polar. It’s the scrappy “we want your business” philosophy that Polar seems to have wandered away from into limbo. Would be nice if it records stroke rate. Too low, and youâre not going to make gains. If this is the way forward for polar then I will simply skip a generation or two or switch to garmin. And frankly speaking, Polar is not match to Grmin. And I have a water rower (First Degree) and I can’t connect that to the Garmin for distance, stroke rate, speed etc. This watch looks older not newer than the old Vantage. They pretty much all work with the H10 and OH1. You can also view this on the Polar Flow app: Now, when it comes to Recovery Tracking, youâve got a binary choice between using âNightly Rechargeâ, which is mostly focused on sleep tracking, or using Recovery Pro. I donât know. The V800 have it but not the Vantage V. This is the main thing that will make me buy this watch. Itâs as simple as that. Träningsvisningar kan enkelt anpassas i Flow (via mobiltelefon eller dator). Schibsted är ansvarig för din data pÃ¥ denna webbsajt. Hello. I completed the warm-up and began the main chunk of the test without issue: Then, some 13 minutes into the painful part of the test, the connection dropped out, and the test also forcibly failed. Whereas Tolerance shows your average daily load from the past 28 days. Now, given this feature has only rolled out, and Iâve only got a few jump tests and a successful running test (my failed cycling tests interestingly donât show up here), the data is kinda slim. is it possible that the RR interval (HRV) can now be displayed again on the watch during exercise? And of course â you can always sign-up to be a DCR Supporter! Click above for all the details. If you have a Polar Vantage M then you are only missing the built in native power capability, barometer, and the Training Load / Recovery Pro. DCR, you missed, magnetic compass is a new from V. The widget seems to show direction great – you can lock the desired direction and it shows how you are going compared to the locked one. For example, when you follow a route, it would be nice to see that your ascents are 1000m far and there are 500m more ascents to come. What I’d like (concerning all wrist gadgets) is buttons on up and down sides, not left and right. Really bad. Polar precision prime HR: Polar redefines the gold standard in optical heart RATE accuracy by combining the latest in ⦠say what now!! The Grit X wont receive more updates? The first time I paired it to a Tacx NEO 2 trainer, and as I started the main portion of the test dropouts occurred via Bluetooth Smart, and eventually it ended the test due to lack of data. We will see. dcrainmaker /2018/12/polar-vantage-v-multisport-review.html  If you’re trying to decide which unit to buy – check out my in-depth reviews section. You probably stumbled upon here looking for a review of a sports gadget. Ah sorry, no I didn’t use phased trainings out of Flow. So I lowered my max to 150 but I feel it might be off … there is no science behind that and through research max will decrease between 10-15 beats … my question will V2 through these new tests can help me better determine my zones … and does it automatically adjust the heart rates zones after the tests …. To begin a workout youâll either single-press the lower left button, or long-hold the middle right button. Par Vantage V apskatu [â¦] Instead, they are basically giving a “step-equivalent” to whatever activities you are doing. I need accurate hr tracking. It puts Polar in a bit of a tough bind with this offering, in that the COROS Pace 2 is priced to attract a beginner, whereas the Garmin FR745 feature set (including music) and identical price as the Vantage V2 somehow make the FR745 price seem reasonable now. My main focus would be running, trail running and hiking. Interesting, so it seems hardly GPS/Pace-driven. Now it is in a drawer and I bought a used fenix 5x cheap instead. If thatâs the case my Grit X is the last Polar device Iâm buying. Yes, they appear in other views. Another thing you could do (which makes my gears turn) is to do a sub maximal treadmill test, preferably one that is displaying METS on the treadmill, but speed and grade will work fine. Translated with link to DeepL.com (free version). Finally, remember the Garmin Connect IQ Summit is (virtually) next week. I assume you use the default setting. Did three suggested exercises from FitSpark. I got confirmation from Polar that this will be fixed in release 2.0, scheduled for this month. Den har 50 meters vattenresistens, Bluetooth, platstjänster och lång batteritid. The Polar OH1 and HRM-PRO were basically identical there. That’s what I was imagining would have come to original Vantage V when I bought it on release since they marketed it so hard with power training. I do miss Polar’s sleep metrics ð, Thanks for the review. I don’t really want to deal with polar anymore, they’re just good enough, which doesn’t cut it at the pricepoint. Or can this only be done by a ‘faster’ CPU from the Vantage V2 and other hardware internals? If you mean Fitspark trainings, no you can’t. That being said, if you cycle and use a power meter you could train based on power zones. They actually had a workout profile specifically for CrossFit until I’m guessing they were legally forced to change the name to HIIT. The only thing(s) v800 lacked from now 2 generations later, were/are touchscreen, OHR (not an improvement by any indication, a strap is still the way to go), and color screen (which a v800 with a color touchscreen, would have been a very minor hardware change, frankly). This watch has it all. Race pace is the same as on V1. This dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart sensor will transmit cadence not only to your bike computer/watch, but also 3rd party apps like Zwift, TrainerRoad, and more. It, not me. It will likely be the last Polar I own. I would like to know if the Vantage V2 has the same big flaw. However, after that point in the wide open bike path with nothing on either side, the Polar was off by quite a bit â more than a two-lane roadway away, the Garmin spot-on, and the Fitbit just very slightly off: Meanwhile, taking a look at the HR accuracy during that run tells an oddly similar story. For a good night sleep, you canât turn off the auto light on function. Thanks, Nick! I say âcurrentlyâ, because somewhat interestingly thatâs the very specific wording that Polarâs PR team used when discussing it â specifically saying (an exact quote) âNo, there are currently no payment solutions included in Polar Vantage V2.â, whereas on other music storage related questions, it was a much more definitive âNoâ. I’ve never used it, don’t know how well it works, but it’s in Flow (now I want to try, just did a 2km row the other day, would have been good to try!). So I really hope we see a Vantage M2, at perhaps $229 or $249, with a few Grit X features tossed in. ð. Note that with both the running and cycling test, this wonât automatically start until you press to begin this section. My understanding is that the Grit did not show them. Just like any other old tech, new blood doesn’t know it, and wants to do “new things” and old blood, starts disappearing. 130+ SPORTPROFILER Polar Vantage V stöder över 130 olika träningstyper. How does it adjust HR zones after taking the test? A beta blocker is typically prescribed to blunt a heart rate response on purpose, to keep a large amount of strain on the heart in check. No, unfortunately not. Itâs purely off the cuff style hill counting. What in “https://www.reddit.com/r/Polarfitness/comments/evlsj8/does_the_vantage_v_have_a_compass_after_all/” It seems a bit of a dead end to do so now, even with the fairly reasonable price offerings available (£350 inc a H10 bundled in). Required fields are marked.If you would like a profile picture, simply register at Gravatar, which works here on DCR and across the web. I do lose Polar proprietary stuff like Running Index, Energy Sources, heart rate zones, so it’s not perfect. Long story short: What would be your suggestion for a new GPS watch right now? On both watches there are data fields for completed ascent and descent of the current run. But hey, at least you got two trainings then! This may seem like a very small and unimportant feature, but this the one that keeps me from thinking about upgrading from my M430. And lastly, if you felt this review was useful â I always appreciate feedback in the comments below. As a Vantage V owner I p*ssed that many of the functions could easily have been added to the original Vantage V, as they did with the V800. Polar Vantage V mäter automatiskt puls, simstil, sträcka, tempo, simtag och vilotid. Now, Ray mentioned “Power-based training workouts on Polar Flow (to transfer to the watch)” are coming before the end of the year. I would think this might piss loyal customers off eventually. I am very aware that the GX and V2 are the new modals and the the M-serie will be discontinued soon. I have the V (it “replaced” my v800). But adjusting the power smoothing you do on the watch not in flow or the app. Prisjakt jämför priser och erbjudanden frÃ¥n 40 butiker. I like the feel of the green band and the look of it with the dark aluminum frame. But with these small improvements you obviously don’t gain new customers from Polar’s point of view, only with new features. Though, realistically, most of those deals were signed 2-3 years ago, but still, in an era where they were a big dog in the market. My Forerunner 935 developed some flaws over the last months â Elevation is to high in 95% of the time and sometimes totally off (up to 250% increase), heart rate readings are inaccurate especially in colder conditions (I had a intervall session this week and always when I picked up the pace for my 1200m reps the HR actually fell down for the time of the rep. Interestingly the watch seemed to catch the right HR again everytime I finished a rep and got into the rest phase). Or the dev team is really “it” and there isn’t anyone guiding them on what to do, and so they are aimless and just putting in things they can easily code (nutrition alerts based on “x+y+z = “drink”, no hardware sensors required, just rehashing inputs already reaching the CPU at that point). Nice review btw, thx! It’s still not possible to disable OHR, right? The other new things are pretty cool but not so important. Itâs not dependent on your heart rate itâs an âoutputâ and therefore is more of a true reflection of your capabilities. The DCR Cave is mostly concrete, and my guess is I turned a corner too tight and clipped it…which…umm…happens a lot. Youâll see this on your home watch face dashboards: And when you open it up itâll give you different options to suffer through. I would like to see a comparison of the optical HR sensor for running + other activities accuracy and ANS recovery tracking during the night. Thank you very much!! Youâre correct that you can assemble a very nice sport watch with apps on the Apple Watch. Does it still uses 90 80 70 60 50% based on the max HR, or does it set zone 5 to the anaerobic threshold and zone 3 to aereobic threshold values? Apple are committing to provide os updates for older devices their fitness features are now good enough for most. Polar Vantage V Atjaunots apskats 2020. gada vasarÄ! Example: link to i1.wp.com Hereâs that data: At a high level we see some slight differences. Letâs say itâs a âmeâ problem. For this section Iâm going to focus mainly on the core workout/training load/recovery tracking features. We use feel (RPE) for patients. If you want a true pedometer, those are available at WalMart for like $10 (or a Fitbit, etc for a lot more, that doesn’t do any better other than integration with a website/app), which will track physical steps, but if you are doing something like wall-balls, bench press, etc, they aren’t going to track much of anything, even though you may be burning 700 calories an hour. But it almost always can give insight into Garmin’s future plans. Oh, and loss of Gymlink, which WAS a significant differentiator (accurate HR from chest strap, while swimming anyone? I had (mostly) success with both a Quarq DZero power meter & Elite Tuo trainer, but oddly was unable to pair to a PowerTap P2 pedal set. If you are using RunGap and have one of Polar devices that support Training Load Pro (like V1 or Grit or whatever), when you import via RunGap, the workouts should get TRIMP scores and be displayed in Cardio Load report. You have to go and set them yourself – it’ll tell you at the end of the test to go update them if you want. three dots at the right top of rungap -> Filter -> start date (in your case May 30th) ->Done -> you then see only your workouts from May 30th onwards -> 3 dots at the bottom ->Use filter ->share (in your case to polar flow -> DONE ð. Garmin seems a safer bet although I think the finish doesnt look as polished and a bit plasticy on the 745/945’s. Though, I suspect you know that based on the intro portion of your question. And realistically that probably means there will be a VM2 announced shortly as another water-treading product). In the early V days, I had an issue when several workouts captured on V didn’t get TRIMP scores but got Polar legacy strain instead. Is it possible somehow? Still, I think we’re starting to see things creep back up to really good levels. I see nfc/qr tags on all equipment at my local gym, would be nice to tap your watch and have it count reps for a specific machine. To begin, weâre actually going to go with my Running Performance Test from yesterday, taking a look at both HR accuracy and GPS accuracy. They like how it “just works”. The original Vantage V actually had a magnetic compass all along, it just wasn’t utilized until Vantage Update 5.0, when they added compass calibration. I ain’t a runner, but I do a lot of cycling (I have the almighty M460 cycling computer). Sorry for the long post anyone who made it this far, these are just my perspectives, but Polar needs someone in charge of product dev that is actually listening, and has very rigorous product expectations to match what is being asked, and it just seems they don’t have that, or a team (or hardware) that can deliver anymore on the new hardware/code base. Tough one, Can it show the “PM” time indicator for more than 60 seconds during any activity sessions? Whereas Garmin’s equivalents (Body Battery? Should I look into a watch upgrade? Good review as always. Hej Ray, Wanna save some cash and support the site? Grit-X does however. – every day orthostetic recover test, based on HRV trend I have stacks of Polar watches, HR sensors, etc (at least the sensors are relatively brand-agnostic with the H10)… this isn’t trivial to me, it sucks but one can’t stay loyal to a dead horse forever. For longer sessions it isn’t too bad, but I have this HIT routines where you have 10s HIT and 20s slow, where the Garmin takes about 10 strokes to adjust to the new tempo. Sorry, but for this price it’s not enough. Again, you can tap to get more details there: And again, you can dive into sleep metrics from within the Polar Flow app as well: Generally, with the exception of today, I do find Polarâs sleep data pretty consistent with how Iâm feeling on any given day, as well as consistent with the actual times I went to sleep and woke up. Well, atop that thereâs the Polar Training Load Pro. BTM 2 Here’s the exact details: The 2.0 software release for the Polar Vantage V2 is estimated to arrive before end of 2020 and will Plus the UX looks awful still, not to mention the screen still looks like a tamagotchi from the late 90s. Also, does the swim sport profiles record temperature now? I use the ignite for tracking heart rate and somewhat calories burned in tennis, running, and gym training. Ray Hi there, I’m 61 male and I take beta blockers since age 30. In the wrist- vs pod-based power debate, I wonder how they compare on technical trails? After releasing the 745 for 499⬠Iâm afraid the 955 will be 699⬠at least. My trusty old polar v800 is starting to shows signs that itâs in its last days so I am seriously looking for another long term replacement. Why do you think it is that no one besides Garmin seems serious about putting music storage on their running watches? Next, thereâs the weather page, which consistently tells me how terrible the weather is in Amsterdam. Today Polar has announced the Vantage V2, a touch bit over two years since they announced the initial Polar Vantage V & M series watches.Since that time those units have gotten numerous firmware updates (and even a Titanium version).However, earlier this year Polar signaled that it was the end of the line for the original Vantage V & M units in terms of new features. But more on this later in the Sports section. However, you’ve been training a lot lately, so trust your gut feeling” (this is verbatim, I’m looking at the phone and Night Recharge status right now). I love Polar Flow and am reluctant to change, any strong opinions on a Vantage V original vs going new? These can be changed on both Polar Flow online, or via your smartphone app: For example, itâs in here that you can tweak the data field shown on your watch, or following that the GPS & Altitude settings. I suppose that’s probably an opportunity for me to try and explain/compare the two. It appears Garmin is doing this better than Polar at the moment.  I also just put together my complete ‘Gear I Use’ equipment list, from swim to bike to run and everything in between (plus a few extra things). That means youâre gaining previously Grit X only features like Hill Splitter & Fuelwise, but youâll retain the Vantage V series specific features like Recovery Pro, which arenât in the Grit X. In sum, they are not ruling out updates for the Grit X. Does it show your heart rate in real time while swimming?? I use the 945 as bike computer as it has most of the metrics of a Garmin edge and maps. Overall, the Polar Vantage V2 is a modest upgrade to the original Vantage V unit, incorporating the largely software-driven updates of the Grit X from this past spring, with weight reductions and changes to the optical HR sensor.
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